یه سوال داشتم.من لیسانس مهندسی مکانیکم.می تونم ارشدم رو تو آمریکا یا آلمان یا سوییس تو رشته فیزیک بگیرم؟
یه سوال داشتم.من لیسانس مهندسی مکانیکم.می تونم ارشدم رو تو آمریکا یا آلمان یا سوییس تو رشته فیزیک بگیرم؟
SOMEHOW IT IS DIFFICULT FOR YOU TO GET AN ADMISSION BECAUSE YOU PROBABLY DON'T HAVE
TAKEN COURSES LIKE QUANTUM MECHANICS,ELECTRODYNAMICS & MATHEMATICAL PHYSICS(CORE & IMPORTANT COURSES IN BS PHYSICS)
ALSO, IT'S VERY IMPORTANT WHICH FIELD DO U INTEND TO APPLY?
PARTICLE PHYSICS OR PHOTONICS ?
BUT DON'T GIVE UP!
WITH ENOUGH KNOWLEDGE OF PHYSICS U CAN GET ADMISSION EVEN FROM MEDICINE DEGREE!
( I KNOW SOMEBODY DID THE SAME AND NOW IS PhD STUDENT OF PHYSICS AT U TORONTO
GOOD LUCK)
EROS عزیز:
در مورد سه درسی که اشاره کردین:
1- فکر نکنم هیچ دانشجوی فیزیک لیسانسی که اپلای میکنه، از الکترودینامیک زیاد بدونه، چرا که از درسهای ارشده.
2- ریاضی ای که در رشته فیزیک لیسانس درس داده میشه از ریاضی مهندسی برق و مکانیک بیشتر نیست. مگر در مواردی که استادی به صورت سلیقهای فصلی از یک کتاب رو اضافه یا کم کنه.
3- فقط کوانتم میمونه. آنچه که تو لیسانس از کوانتوم درس میدند چندان عمیق نیست و میشه تا دو هفته خوندن جمش کرد.
4- درسهای دیگهای که فیزیکیها میخونند در لیسانس بسیار پراکندس، در آخر 4 سال در هیچ کدوم به مهارت قابل قبولی ندارند. بعضا خیلی هاش هم به درد ارشدشون نمیخوره!
حالا من که رشتهام فیزیک نبوده و میخوام فیزیک رو انتخاب کنم با شرایط فوق دلیلی برای عقب موندن از بقیه نمیبینم. نظر شما چیه؟ آیا برای اپلای دانشجوهای لیسانس فیزیک رو ترجیح میدند؟
HI SUNRISE,
1. ELECTROMAGNETISM/ELECTRODYNAMICS ARE NOT DIFFERENT! JUST THE LEVEL OF THIS COURSE IS DIFFERENT IN UDERGRAD/GRAD.LIKE OHANIAN/JACKSON
2.NO, THE LEVEL IS MUCH MORE HIGHER IN PHYSICS.SUBJECTS LIKE HILBERT SPACE,Linear Equations and Eigenvalues,BESSEL FUNCTIONS,DIRAC NOTATIONS ARE NOT COVERED IN ENGINEERING.
3.YES, NOT IN DEPTH,BUT IN 3 WEEKS!
SO U COULD READ ENGINEERING COURSES IN 3 SECONDS!
(EVEN GREAT EINSTEIN DIDN'T COMPREHEND IT COMPLETELY!!!)
QUANTUM MECHANICS,ELECTRODYNAMICS & MECHANICS ARE THE CORE OF PHYSICS IN EVERY LEVEL
BUT IF U HAVE STUDIED PHYSICS PERSISTENTLY,I KNOW MANY WHO HAVE CHANGED THEIR FIELDS FROM UNRELATED BS'S
I HOPE U THE BEST & IF U NEED ANY HELP REGARDING STUDYING/APPLYING PHYSICS
DO NOT HESITATE TO CONTACT ME.
EROS عزیز بسیار ممنون
1- مطالبی که در ریاضی اشاره کردین در هر دو رشته هست. با اگاهی کامل میگم چون خودم دارم اینهاییکه گفتین رو درس میدم.
2- سطح کوانتوم رو در حد بچههای لیسانس مقایسه کنین نه یه فیزیکدان . من تازه اول راهم.
3- کمک شما بسیار میتونه برام مفید باشه، چون تمام دوستای دور و برم هیچکدوم فیزیکی نیستند.
Hi
I studied Physics in Bsc in Iran and now Msc again Physics in germany we have 42 in our programme , half of them came form engineering,
but pay atention to this please:
the kids are from engineering should have more points and should be excellent in bsc to be selected.
they have very difficulties to adjust their knowledge with Physics students,
Ten person who have come form highl level Universities like Delft , surbon, barcelona emperial college london, Moscow university, Manchester college, and oneof them from Cornel University of USA have lots of problem with their studies which are not easy to deal, some of them want to leave the programme and are looking for another programme here in engineering. this is meanwhile that some weak Physics students from Pakistan, Ithiopia,turkey have no problem.
So be carefull what you are doing, of course iranian student are smart and i am sure you will be seccessfull but as a solution i suggest to go to the master courses in iranian Universities to take your self in a real situation and if you had no problem you could be good in physics, this is the best solution to make a sure decision
as an example :
you may know some mathematical equation and even canteach them so strong but if you want to apply them in Physics and for instance in Maxwell equation or solid state sciences then you will see that how difficult are and getting the consepts beside that math is some thing different from getting the Mathematics alone.
finally i think the solution that i said is the best way to test your susebtibility to start as a physics student
at least Physics students have learned in their bsc during 4-5 years that if they study hard for whole semester and fail in final examination is Usual but in engineering i have not seen that a smart student study hard during the semester and get fail at the end. this is the differences between them.
I hope the engineering student do not think that we are enthusiastic in Physics and talk just to say our major is better or more difficult, because you want to join us and we are happy and you are always welcome .
Good luck
I am ready to answer your questions too. wish you Luck again
ویرایش توسط nafas : November 13th, 2009 در ساعت 10:58 PM دلیل: dictation mistake
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