تجربیات اخذ ویزا در دومین مصاحبه، پس از یک بار Reject شدن

[milsi2]

ممنون golgol عزیز از راهنمائیت من هم ذیگه تصمیم قطعی گرفتم که دوباره اقدام کنم فقط می ترسم بگه تو که چیزی رو تغییر ندادی چرا اومدی به این زودی !!

[golgol]

ممنون golgol عزیز از راهنمائیت من هم ذیگه تصمیم قطعی گرفتم که دوباره اقدام کنم فقط می ترسم بگه تو که چیزی رو تغییر ندادی چرا اومدی به این زودی !!

راستش من تو فروم تجربه هایی خوندم که حتی یکی دو نفر تنها به فاصله ی 2 هفته تا 1 ماه دوباره اقدام کردن(حتی یکیشون دوباره همون سفارت) و در جواب این سوال که شرایطشون چه فرقی کرده گفتن که من به نظر خودم شرایطم کاملا خوب بوده فقط درست نتونستم بیانشون کنم یا خلاصه ضعفی در مصاحبه داشتم و این بار مطمئنم که شما رو قانع می کنم! و گرفتن! D: نمیدونم. ولی اعتماد به نفس واقعا بالایی می خواد اینکار و امیدوارم شمام یکی دیگه از این مثالای خوب برای فروم باشید

[immet]

چرا ویزای دانشجویی و یا غیر دانشجویی با هم زیاد فرق نمیکنن. اگر آفیسر دلش بخواد گیر بده به این موضوع میتونه گیر بده. هر چند این روز ها زیادم وضع دبی بد نیست و اگر شرایطتون خوب باشه و اعتماد به نفستون بالا میتونین شانستونو امتحان کنید. کلا دبی رو بگذارید برای آخرین انتخاب.

والا منم از ترس سابقه بد دبي نميخواستم برم اونجا برا مصاحبه، اما از جاهاي ديگه نتونستم وقت بگيرم و مجبور شدم برم اونجا. اما تو پروسه قبل سفارت و خود سفارت ديدم خيلي از دانشجوها دارن ازونجا برگه زرد OK رو ميگيرن. مسلما چند نفري هم ريجكت شدن اما نه به اون تعداد كه آدم رو خوف برداره!
منم يه سفر خارجي بيشتر نداشتم، اونم به تايلند كه افسره ازم پرسيد و گفتم و پرسيد براي چي؟ كه گفتم برا كنفرانس مكانيك. ويزاي تايلند هم كه ويزاي به درد نخوريه در مقايسه با ويزاي شنگن اروپا. ضمنا بچه هايي رو هم ديدم كه برا دانشجويي اقدام كرده بودند و سفر خارجي هم نداشتند و ويزاشون رو گرفتند.
ولي دركل كه به قول شما اگه افسر بخواد گير بده به هرچيزي ميتونه گير بده، اما موضوع صحبت ما اين نيست.

[lutos]

دوستان من از قبرس ریجکت شدم! شرایطم: برای فوق مهندسی شیمی، پارشیال فاند،job offer از شرکتی که توش چند ماه کار کردم،سند خونه هم داشتم که افیسر اصلا ازم نخواست. برای سفارت نوشته بودم که می خوام بعد فوق شیمی بیام ایران هم کار کنم هم یه فوق مدیریتی به طور پاره وقت بخونم و ایران تنها جاییه که می شه این دوره رو ارزون خوند و ...
افیسر گفت من قانع نشدم
حالا یه دانشگاه دیگه قول فول فاند داده، ولی تا مدارک رو آماده کنه برام طول می کشه ( همین I-20 هم 15 جولای به دستم رسید یه ماه تو راه بوده یه ماه هم تو دانشگاه)
ترم 8 سپتامر شروع می شه!! من برا اواسط اگوست از دبی وقت بگیرم؟ دیدم دوستان همه مدت کیلیرنسشون طول کشیده ترسیدم که من دیگه اصلا نرسم!
گزینه دیگه ای به فکرم نمی رسه.
با خودک گفتم برم اگه به موقع کلیرنس شدم که هیچ اگه نه یه ترم دیفر کنم.
ممنون می شم راهنمایی کنید
من قشنگ داره فرسوده می شم تو این پروسه

[nastaran_m84]

سلام
من یه بار ریجکت شدم از دبی و 3 ماه بعد از آنکارا وقت گرفتم و موفق شدم.
گفتم تو این تاپیک هم توضیح بدم واسه کسایی که یه بار ریجکت شدن.
از من هیچی راجع به ریجکت شدنم در دبی نپرسید.و همون سوالای روتین رو مطرح کرد.
البته من دفعه قبل فاند نداشتم و این دفعه گرفته بودم.
امیدوارم همه موفق باشید.

[MINERVAra]

دوستان من از قبرس ریجکت شدم! شرایطم: برای فوق مهندسی شیمی، پارشیال فاند،job offer از شرکتی که توش چند ماه کار کردم،سند خونه هم داشتم که افیسر اصلا ازم نخواست. برای سفارت نوشته بودم که می خوام بعد فوق شیمی بیام ایران هم کار کنم هم یه فوق مدیریتی به طور پاره وقت بخونم و ایران تنها جاییه که می شه این دوره رو ارزون خوند و ...
افیسر گفت من قانع نشدم
حالا یه دانشگاه دیگه قول فول فاند داده، ولی تا مدارک رو آماده کنه برام طول می کشه ( همین I-20 هم 15 جولای به دستم رسید یه ماه تو راه بوده یه ماه هم تو دانشگاه)
ترم 8 سپتامر شروع می شه!! من برا اواسط اگوست از دبی وقت بگیرم؟ دیدم دوستان همه مدت کیلیرنسشون طول کشیده ترسیدم که من دیگه اصلا نرسم!
گزینه دیگه ای به فکرم نمی رسه.
با خودک گفتم برم اگه به موقع کلیرنس شدم که هیچ اگه نه یه ترم دیفر کنم.
ممنون می شم راهنمایی کنید
من قشنگ داره فرسوده می شم تو این پروسه

Dear friend

I recommend you to think about Ankara for your next interview. Dubai is a kind of riski both for the visa and clearance time. a

Good luck

[kaboutarsolh]

US Visa Refusal, Denial and Reapplication

My US Visa is rejected! Why?

There could be several reasons for a visa refusal or denial or visa rejection. In case consulate refuse your US visa, you may receive form with a refusal clause/reason like 221g(administrative processing) or 214b.(Refusal)
What is a Visa Refusal?

As per the U.S. immigration and visa law guidelines , a visa must be denied if the applicant cannot establish his or her eligibility, either because the application does not meet the requirements of an established visa category, or because there are grounds for ineligibility based on other aspects of the visa case. A visa refusal is the formal denial of a non-immigrant visa application by a U.S. consular officer acting pursuant to the Immigration and Nationality Act. (More about visa refusals may be found at http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/in...ties_1364.html).

How to Overcome the refusal ?

Some visa refusals can be overcome by the furnishing additional information by applicant information that establishes an applicant's eligibility for the visa. If you believe you have more information and evidence that can help visa officer to make the decision in your favor, you should reapply for the visa with all the information and supporting documents. Other then the submitted documents. It is up to consular officers at U.S. embassies and consulates to determine eligibility on an individual basis on the merits of each case.
Most of the cases refusal (221g) can be just because of any documents missing or any additional information required by the consulate. See a Sample of 221g document.
Applicants are refused under Section 214(b) INA if they are unable to demonstrate to the satisfaction of a consular officer that they have sufficiently strong and long-term family, social, and economic ties outside the United States which make them depart the United States after a temporary stay.
See a Sample of 214b letter of refusal document.
Consular officers tend to focus on factors that help us determine whether the applicants possess compelling ties to applicant’s home country:

• If the applicants have traveled to the U.S. previously, how long did they stay? If they stayed longer than 6 months, did they have INS approval to do so? (Note: Please have the applicants bring their INS extension approval notices to their interview).
• If the applicants have traveled to the U.S. previously, how long have they been back in home country?
• How many children and grandchildren do the applicants have back in home country?
• Have the relatives in the U.S. ever returned to home country to visit their families as is normal for foreign students, workers, and residents in the U.S.?
• Are the applicant active professionally in their home country; if so, what is their income and the nature of their work?

The answers to these questions relate to whether applicants can fulfill the statutory requirement of the Immigration and Nationality Act to show that they have a permanent residence in their home country.
Each case is different in its own and consular officer evaluates each visa application on its own merits according to visa law and procedures.

Often, older applicants( mostly visiting Parents) do not understand why their applications to return to the U.S. a second time are denied, even though INS approved an extension of stay during their previous visit. Usually, these applicants stayed in the U.S. for a year or more and have been back in home country only a short while. Under these circumstances, the applicants have great difficulty establishing that they have compelling social or professional obligations in their home country, thereby making them ineligible to receive another visa.

What do I do if my application for a visa has been refused?
Generally you should get a refusal letter; this will explain the reason why we are unable to issue you with a visa and provide information on the procedures you should follow.
Can you reapply? and when?

Yes you can apply again as many times as you want.
What are strong ties?

Strong ties differ from country to country, city to city, individual to individual. "Ties" are the various aspects of a person's life that bind them to their country or residence: possessions, employment, social and family relationships. Some examples of ties can be a person’s job and income, a house or apartment, a car, close family relationships, bank accounts, etc.
Such ties may include business, employment, family, property or other connections which satisfy a consular officer that the applicant will leave the United States voluntarily after a temporary visit. For example, you may bring a letter from your current employer, on letterhead, with your position/job title, length of employment, and monthly salary and your three most recent months’ bank statements.
In the case of younger applicants who may not have had an opportunity to establish such ties, U.S. law considers educational status, school grades and long-range plans in home country
As each person's situation is different, there is no single criteria that shows compelling ties to home country. Each case is examined individually and is accorded every consideration under the law.
Consular officers are trained to look at each application individually and consider professional, social, cultural and other factors.
Is a denial under Section 214(b) permanent?

No. If an applicant has new information which was not presented to the interviewing officer at the time of the first application, or if the applicants overall circumstances have changed significantly since the last application, a visa may be approved.
See a Sample of 214b letter of refusal document.
Do refused applicants have to wait three to six months before reapplying?

There is no time restriction on resubmitting an application after a refusal. If additional information or supporting documentation is available which may further demonstrate applicant’s qualification for a visa, an application may be resubmitted.
I presented all the documents I was told to bring, but my application was turned down anyway. What else should I bring?

The problem is not the documents. Rather, the applicants current overall situation (as supported by those documents) was not adequate to overcome the presumption that he or she is an intending immigrant. Remember, U.S. law says that all applicants for nonimmigrant visas are intending immigrant until they show that their overall circumstances would be adequate to compel their return home after visiting the U.S.
Why are the visa interviews so short? I was refused after only a couple of questions and the interviewer hardly looked at my documents?

Visa officers handle thousands of applications every year. Based on this experience, they are able to quickly review the application form and supporting documents in order to narrow the range in which questions may need to be asked. Keep in mind, much of the necessary information required to make a decision is already supplied on the application form itself, so there is usually no need for the officer to ask more than a few additional questions

[kaboutarsolh]

When I applied for a visa, I told the officer I would return to my home country after a short stay in the US. Why didn't the officer believe me?

Visa officers are required to evaluate the applicants overall situation in reaching a decision. Statement indicating that the applicant intends to return to home country are helpful, but under the requirements of U.S. law the statement alone is not adequate to show that they qualify for a visa.
If my visa application is denied, would it help to have a high ranking official like congressmen/senator contact the consulate?

No. United States law assigns the responsibility for issuance or refusal of visas to consular officers overseas. They have the final say on all visa cases. Additionally, United States law is designed to insulate the decisions in visa cases from outside influences. An applicant can influence a reversal of a prior denial only through presentation of new convincing evidence of strong ties.
Should I use a travel agent or other advisor to help me apply?

The matter is a personal decision for each applicant. However, in most cases it is not necessary for applicants hire a travel agent to assist with a visa application. Travel agents will often charge to fill out forms which are available for free. They also charge large sums on the promise of enabling the traveler to bypass the visa interview. Our experience shows that many applicants are coached by intermediaries to provide answers which are misleading. While the truthful answer would not have harmed the application, the discovery of a misleading answer often puts the entire application in doubt.
Some ineligible applicants seek help from a "visa consultant". Be careful. If you do decide to hire a consultant, remember that you alone are responsible for the accuracy of the information in your application.

[farzan_r]

دوستان عزيز من خودم يك بار از قبرس به دليل اينكه افيسر اول به عكس من گير داد و بعد از پرسيدن 4 تا سوال منو را رد كرد . اما براي بار دوم آنكارا انتخاب كردم و افيسر از من اصلا در مورد رد شدنم در قبرس حرفي نزد و مثل كسي كه براي اولين بار دارم مصاحبه ميشم با من مصاحبه كرد و به من برگه زرد را داد و الان هم منتظر كلير شدن هستم .

[memol1]

من ۲۲ dec اقدام کردم در مالزی و ریجکت شدم . به خاطره lack of social tie . و گفتن چون فامیل داری اونجا و اسپانسرت هم آمریکاست . من نمیتونم به تو visa بدم ! حتا سند و این چیزا رو هم نگاه نکرد. نخواست ازم.. من برای college اقدام کرده بودم.

احتمالا برام آنکارا برای دوم . خوده افسر گفت برو دوبی ، آنکارا ، استانبول ....

من نمیدونم چه جوری این tie رو بیرون از US قوی کنم !؟