آرشیو شده: گرین کارت 3 ساله دانمارک (تا 15 ژانویه 2014)

[seyed28]

سلام seyed28
ميشه بكيد شما كي ابلاي كرديد؟ منظورم تاريخشه
جواب بديد ممنون ميشم
ممنون

سلام
من 17 اکتبر 2012 اپلای کردم 7 نوامبر مدارک من رسید به دانمارک و امروز هم مدارکم رو از ایران تحویل گرفتم این فاصله کوتاه هیچ نتمه ای هم نگرفتم فک کنم کل کارام با یه جت پر سرعت انجام شده

[ghazalak_t]

ببخشید، ظاهرا برای من پیغام خصوصی هم فرستاده بودین که به دلیل پر بودن صندوق دریافت، برگشت خورد.
همونطوری که رامین گفت، کار فول تایم در دانمارک 37 ساعت در هفته هست. به نظرم سابقه کار خودتون رو در 5 سال اخیر (منظور از 5 سال قبل از روز ارائه مدارک و نه قبل از اون) به ساعت حساب کنید. بعد تقسیم بر 37 کنین ببینین معادل چند هفته کار فول تایم میشه. اگر بیشتر از 156 هفته (سه سال شد) که اعتراض بزنین روش و محاسبات خودتون رو هم حتما ارائه بدین. اگر نامه تون به دانمارکی هست میتونین برای من بفرستین که دقیقتر بخونم.

من سابقه رو (که حاصل مجموع کارم از هر دوتا شغل بوده) جمع زدم. بیشتر از سه سال میشه. اینو از روی لیست سوابق بیمه ام در آوردم.
تنها شکم اینه که چون دوتا کار بوده که مدتی هم همپوشانی داشته، اینها قبول نکنند که با هم جمع بزنند.
دیشب یکی از دوستان در دانمارک نامه رو برام ترجمه کرد و گفت به نظر میرسه که آفیسر یه مقدار گیج شده و دقیقا متوجه شرایط شغلی شما نشده. درست هم هست چون توی اطلاعاتی که داده کمی موارد ضد و نقیض هست.
به هر حال من هم دارم با گرفتن یه سابقه کار جدید با جزییات بیشتر و همینطور ترجمه ی سابقه بیمه برای محاسبه ی ساعت ها، برای اعتراض تلاش میکنم.
در هر صورت نتیجه رو اینجا خبر میدم.
ممنون از راهنمایی و همراهی

[ghazalak_t]

یه موردی که به نظر من میاد راجع به دوستانی که قبل از ما (من: 4 اکتبر) اقدام کرده ن و هنوز منتظر دریافت ویزا هستن، این هست که ظاهرا موقع بررسی پرونده اینها در وهله ی اول کلیت امتیاز ها رو چک میکنند، اگر کسی مشکل عمده داشته باشه سریع ریجکت میکنند و به جزییات نمی پردازن و خبر میدن. اگر مشکلی نباشه، قاعدتا باید پروسه بررسی قدری بیشتر طول بکشه.
این رو به این دلیل میگم که برای من نوشته بود: ما فرض رو بر این گذاشتیم که مدرک تحصیلی شما امتیاز 60 رو میاره و اون رو برای "asses" نفرستادیم. چون متوجه شدیم که حتی در صورت آوردن اون 60 امتیاز پرونده ی شما از سابقه ی شغلی امتیاز کم میاره.
بنابراین اگر شما امتیاز رو میارین احتمالا کار بررسی پرونده تون قدری بیشتر طول میکشه، چون برای ارزشیابی باید به اداره های دیگری هم فرستاده بشه.

[abrimi]

یک سوال : این امتحان زبان دانمارکی داستانش چیه ؟ کجا میشه امتحان داد؟

[cdbmc100]

سلام
من 17 اکتبر 2012 اپلای کردم 7 نوامبر مدارک من رسید به دانمارک و امروز هم مدارکم رو از ایران تحویل گرفتم این فاصله کوتاه هیچ نتمه ای هم نگرفتم فک کنم کل کارام با یه جت پر سرعت انجام شده

دوست عزیز میشه لطفاٌ نامتونو برای ما هم بزارین هم شاید بتونیم هم فکری کنیم و هم شاید نکتۀ آموزنده ای توش داشته باشه که بدرد بقیه هم بخوره.
مسئله مهمی که در مورد شما هستش اینه که اگه مدارکتون ارزیابی شده باشه و به شما 60 داده باشند به نظر من خیلی جای امیدواری هستش ولی اگه مثل دوست دیگمون فرض کرده باشن 60 می شین و ... اونوقت داستان یکمی فرق می کنه. لطفاً اگه براتون ممکنه متن نامۀ محاسبۀ امتیازاتتونو برامون بفرستین.

[Bahareman]

ببخشید بعد از درست شدن کار همه خانواده بعد از چه مدت می شه برای خانواده درجه یک مثل مادر دعوت نامه فرستاد؟ بعد هم اصلا امیدی هست که در صورت اثبات وابستگی مادی والدین برای آنها هم اقامت گرفت؟

[seyed28]

دوست عزیز میشه لطفاٌ نامتونو برای ما هم بزارین هم شاید بتونیم هم فکری کنیم و هم شاید نکتۀ آموزنده ای توش داشته باشه که بدرد بقیه هم بخوره.
مسئله مهمی که در مورد شما هستش اینه که اگه مدارکتون ارزیابی شده باشه و به شما 60 داده باشند به نظر من خیلی جای امیدواری هستش ولی اگه مثل دوست دیگمون فرض کرده باشن 60 می شین و ... اونوقت داستان یکمی فرق می کنه. لطفاً اگه براتون ممکنه متن نامۀ محاسبۀ امتیازاتتونو برامون بفرستین.

سلام اینم نامه من:
Refusal of residence
On 17 October 2012 have you applied for a residence permit based on the greencard scheme.
Decision Agency for Retention and Recruitment can not give you a residence permit in Denmark, because the conditions of the Aliens Act § 9 a paragraph. 2, No. 1, is not satisfied.
Facts You have the 17th October 2012 applied for a residence permit on the basis of greencard scheme.
You have an application for a green card attached diplomas and transcripts for a Master of Science, Electronic Commerce (120 ECTS) from Luleå Technical University, Sweden. The training is conducted in Iran.
It appears from diploma to degree program is rated at 2 years, 120 ECTS.
Finally, you have attached employer statement Fajr Ofogh Taban Company where it appears that you have worked full time as a Research Manager in the period 20 September 2007 and up to the time of application. It is also clear that in the period 2009 to 2011 was responsible for the same position part time due to study. It appears, re. your work that you analyze the needs and problems of the organization, selecting methods and techniques for research, prepare plans and questionnaires, interpret data, write reports, draw up recommendations and oversees the work.
Legal basis
After the Aliens Act § 9 a paragraph. 2, No. 1, an alien may be granted a residence permit on the basis of a Minister of Employment fixed points of the Aliens Act § 9 a paragraph. 6 and Executive Order No. 640 of 25 June 2008 on the greencard scheme points.
After greencard Order § 1, paragraph. 2, an alien must obtain at least 100 points to get a residence permit under § 9 a paragraph. 2, No. 1
After greencard Order § 2, paragraph. 1, points are awarded for the alien's education. There can be given points for one educational level.
Annex 1 to greencard notice shows among other things, that it is a condition for obtaining credits for education, the alien who holds at least a training level equivalent to a Danish Bachelor's degree / completed between higher education.
It is also clear from Annex 1 to greencard notice that if no awards points for education, the alien does not meet the requirement to obtain at least 100 points in order to be granted a residence permit.
Besides education, points are awarded for the alien language skills, work experience, adaptability and age.
Justification
We have to determine emphasized that you do not get the 100 points required for obtaining a residence permit under § 9 a paragraph. 2, No. 1, Executive Order No. 640 of 25 June 2008 on the greencard scheme points.
You have completed a 2-year Master of Science, Electronic Commerce (120 ECTS) from Luleå Technical University, Sweden, therefore you are awarded 60 points for education.
In order to obtain bonus points for a study program included in the positive list, the education requirement on the positive list to be fulfilled. There will also be an education that is directly related to a specific position under the positive list. We do not find that your training in electronic commerce attached to a position subject to the then current or positive. Thereby resulting in no bonus points for a study program included in the positive list.
When your work in the position of Research Manager is not included in the positive list, you will be awarded any points for work experience in the areas covered by then in force or existing positive. We thus focused on the description of your duties and positions in management in the positive list requires possession of directors, which we do not find that you are in possession.
You do not have documented at least 3 years of full-time work within the last 5 years, therefore you are awarded no points for other work experience.
It appears from the attached documentation from Luleå University that your education was in English. Therefore, you are awarded 20 points for language proficiency.
You have not had legal residence and employment and / or completed higher education in an EU / EEA country or Switzerland, therefore you are awarded any points for adaptability.
You were at the time of application under 35 years old, therefore you are awarded 15 points for age.
You thus achieving a total of 95 points. We can not give you a residence permit in Denmark.
You can appeal against that decision to the Immigration Board, Adelgade 11, 1304 Copenhagen K, E-mail: udln@udln.dk
If you want to complain, complain later than 8 weeks from when you received the decision.
You must create a new case ordering ID to use in the appeal, and you must also be at least simultaneously with the complaint pay a fee of DKK 780th
The fee refunded if you get totally or partially successful in your complaint. You must therefore also in connection with a complaint specify which full discharge of the repayment of the appeal fee should this become an issue.

[NAZI17]

سلام دوستان
من امروز نامه مبنی بر ارسال مدارک تحصیلیم جهت ارزشیابی دریافت کردم که این نامه در 18 دسامبر تهیه شده و امروز دستم رسیده و گفته ارزیابی مدارکم 2 ماه طول می کشه و بعد از ان یک ماه هم تصمیم گیری نهایی.
من 4 سپتامبر وقت مصاحبه داشتم

[oilafamila]

سلام دوستان
من امروز نامه مبنی بر ارسال مدارک تحصیلیم جهت ارزشیابی دریافت کردم که این نامه در 18 دسامبر تهیه شده و امروز دستم رسیده و گفته ارزیابی مدارکم 2 ماه طول می کشه و بعد از ان یک ماه هم تصمیم گیری نهایی.
من 4 سپتامبر وقت مصاحبه داشتم

با سلام
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موفق باشید

[cdbmc100]

سلام اینم نامه من:
Refusal of residence
On 17 October 2012 have you applied for a residence permit based on the greencard scheme.
Decision Agency for Retention and Recruitment can not give you a residence permit in Denmark, because the conditions of the Aliens Act § 9 a paragraph. 2, No. 1, is not satisfied.
Facts You have the 17th October 2012 applied for a residence permit on the basis of greencard scheme.
You have an application for a green card attached diplomas and transcripts for a Master of Science, Electronic Commerce (120 ECTS) from Luleå Technical University, Sweden. The training is conducted in Iran.
It appears from diploma to degree program is rated at 2 years, 120 ECTS.
Finally, you have attached employer statement Fajr Ofogh Taban Company where it appears that you have worked full time as a Research Manager in the period 20 September 2007 and up to the time of application. It is also clear that in the period 2009 to 2011 was responsible for the same position part time due to study. It appears, re. your work that you analyze the needs and problems of the organization, selecting methods and techniques for research, prepare plans and questionnaires, interpret data, write reports, draw up recommendations and oversees the work.
Legal basis
After the Aliens Act § 9 a paragraph. 2, No. 1, an alien may be granted a residence permit on the basis of a Minister of Employment fixed points of the Aliens Act § 9 a paragraph. 6 and Executive Order No. 640 of 25 June 2008 on the greencard scheme points.
After greencard Order § 1, paragraph. 2, an alien must obtain at least 100 points to get a residence permit under § 9 a paragraph. 2, No. 1
After greencard Order § 2, paragraph. 1, points are awarded for the alien's education. There can be given points for one educational level.
Annex 1 to greencard notice shows among other things, that it is a condition for obtaining credits for education, the alien who holds at least a training level equivalent to a Danish Bachelor's degree / completed between higher education.
It is also clear from Annex 1 to greencard notice that if no awards points for education, the alien does not meet the requirement to obtain at least 100 points in order to be granted a residence permit.
Besides education, points are awarded for the alien language skills, work experience, adaptability and age.
Justification
We have to determine emphasized that you do not get the 100 points required for obtaining a residence permit under § 9 a paragraph. 2, No. 1, Executive Order No. 640 of 25 June 2008 on the greencard scheme points.
You have completed a 2-year Master of Science, Electronic Commerce (120 ECTS) from Luleå Technical University, Sweden, therefore you are awarded 60 points for education.
In order to obtain bonus points for a study program included in the positive list, the education requirement on the positive list to be fulfilled. There will also be an education that is directly related to a specific position under the positive list. We do not find that your training in electronic commerce attached to a position subject to the then current or positive. Thereby resulting in no bonus points for a study program included in the positive list.
When your work in the position of Research Manager is not included in the positive list, you will be awarded any points for work experience in the areas covered by then in force or existing positive. We thus focused on the description of your duties and positions in management in the positive list requires possession of directors, which we do not find that you are in possession.
You do not have documented at least 3 years of full-time work within the last 5 years, therefore you are awarded no points for other work experience.
It appears from the attached documentation from Luleå University that your education was in English. Therefore, you are awarded 20 points for language proficiency.
You have not had legal residence and employment and / or completed higher education in an EU / EEA country or Switzerland, therefore you are awarded any points for adaptability.
You were at the time of application under 35 years old, therefore you are awarded 15 points for age.
You thus achieving a total of 95 points. We can not give you a residence permit in Denmark.
You can appeal against that decision to the Immigration Board, Adelgade 11, 1304 Copenhagen K, E-mail: udln@udln.dk
If you want to complain, complain later than 8 weeks from when you received the decision.
You must create a new case ordering ID to use in the appeal, and you must also be at least simultaneously with the complaint pay a fee of DKK 780th
The fee refunded if you get totally or partially successful in your complaint. You must therefore also in connection with a complaint specify which full discharge of the repayment of the appeal fee should this become an issue.

دوست عزیز واقعاً با سخت گیری تمام کیس شمارو محاسبه کردن و البته یه نکته ایو من میبینم که شما فارغ التحصیل 2011 هستین و سابقۀ کار همزمان با تحصیلتونو پارت تایم در نظر گرفتن که البته حالا اینجا دو تا مسئله خیلی مهمه 1- بازۀ تحصیلیتون در 2009 و 2011 از کی تا کی بوده 2- در نامۀ سابقۀ کارتون ساعت کارکرد ذکر شده یا نه؟ چون شما اگه معادل 3 سال سابقۀ کار حتی بدون لیست پازیتیو اگه داشته باشین مسئله حله و امتیازو میارین.