تجربیات زندگی در اتریش و کارهای ضروری برای روزهای اول ورود

[sune]

با سلام خدمت همه دوستان و کاربران عزیز،

یکی از مدارک جهت اخذ ویزای دانشجوئی، ارائه یک اجاره نامه خوابگاه یا آپارتمان میباشد.
این که میشه از طریق سایت OEAD Housing خابگاه اجاره کرد رو می دونم. ولی گویا دوستان ایرانی حاضر در اتریش از هزینه های بالای این موسسه گلایه مندند.

اگر کسی بتونه من رو در زمینه گرفتن فوری اجاره نامه و هم چنین راههای دیگر رزرو خوابگاه و آپارتمان راهنمائی بکنه، بسیار ممنون میشم.

از اونجائی که تنها مدرک باقی مانده برای ارائه به سفارت همین مدرکه، به کمک فوری شما دوستان نیازمندم.

دوست عزیز
oead همه قیمتی داره.شما میتونید به سایت ojab هم نگاهی کنید.قیمت هاش کمتره و پول پیش کمتری میگیره.ولی شرط سنی زیر 30 سال داره.راه دیگه هم این هست که اگر کسی رو تو اتریش دارید ازایشان بخواهید براتون جائی رو اجاره کنه و اجاره نامه بفرسته یا اینکه مدرک اجاره منزل خودشون رو بدند که عنوان کنند شما با ایشان زندگی میکنید.راه دیگه ای ندارید.ولی فکر نکنید اجاره خونه ازخوابگاه کمتر میشه.

[iSaman]

اگر کسی در اتریش بخواد ما رو مدلت کنه چی و از کجا باید برامون بفرسته؟ کپی سند منزل اون شخص برای سفارت کافیه؟ یا باید مدرکی با قید نام ما بفرسته؟ از کجا میتونه و خلاصه این روش چطور ممکنه؟ اگر برای کسی در اتریش پول بفرستیم و بگیم مثلا یک خونه که در اینترنت دیدم رو اجاره کنه به نام من میشه؟ کسی هست در این زمینه کمک کنه؟ ممنون.

[sune]

اگر کسی در اتریش بخواد ما رو مدلت کنه چی و از کجا باید برامون بفرسته؟ کپی سند منزل اون شخص برای سفارت کافیه؟ یا باید مدرکی با قید نام ما بفرسته؟ از کجا میتونه و خلاصه این روش چطور ممکنه؟ اگر برای کسی در اتریش پول بفرستیم و بگیم مثلا یک خونه که در اینترنت دیدم رو اجاره کنه به نام من میشه؟ کسی هست در این زمینه کمک کنه؟ ممنون.

دوست عزیز
جوا ب شما تو پست 432# این صفحه هست.تجربه دوستی هست که همین مشکل شما رو داشتن
http://www.applyabroad.org/forum/sho...�ویی/page44

[tesna]

Austrian Etiquette & Customs

Meeting Etiquette
o Greetings are formal.
o A quick, firm handshake is the traditional greeting.
o Maintain eye contact during the greeting.
o Some Austrian men, particularly those who are older, may kiss the hand of a female.
o A male from another country should not kiss an Austrian woman's hand.
o Women may also kiss men, but men never kiss other men.
o Titles are very important and denote respect. Use a person's title and their surname until invited to use their first name.
o When entering a room, shake hands with everyone individually, including children


Gift Giving Etiquette

o In general, Austrians exchange gifts with family and close friends at Christmas (generally Christmas Eve) and birthdays.
o Children receive gifts on December 6th, the feast of St. Nicholas
o If invited to dinner at an Austrian's house, bring a small gift of consumables such as chocolates.
o If giving flowers, always give an odd number as except for 12, even numbers mean bad luck.
o Do not give red carnations, lilies, or chrysanthemums.
o Gifts should be nicely wrapped.
o Gifts are usually opened when received.

Dining Etiquette

o If you are invited to an Austrian's house:
o Arrive on time. Punctuality is a sign of respect.
o Dress conservatively and elegantly.
o In some houses you may be asked to remove your shoes, although the custom is not as prevalent as it once was.

!Watch your table manners

o Remain standing until invited to sit down. You may be shown to a particular seat.
o Table manners are Continental -- the fork is held in the left hand and the knife in the right while eating.
o Put your napkin on your lap as soon as you sit down.
o Do not begin eating until the hostess says 'mahlzeit' or 'Guten Appetit'.
o Cut as much of your food with your fork as possible, since this compliments the cook by saying the food is very tender.
o Finish everything on your plate.
o Indicate you have finished eating by laying your knife and fork parallel on your plate with the handles facing to the right.
o The host gives the first toast. Everyone lifts and clinks glasses, looks the person making the toast in the eye and says, 'Prost!'.
o An honoured guest offers a toast of thanks to the host at the end of the meal.

Business Etiquette and Protocol in Austria

Relationships & Communication

o First impressions are important and you will be judged on your clothing and demeanour.
o Although Austrians prefer third-party introductions, they do not need a personal relationship in order to do business.
o They will be interested in any advanced university degrees you might have as well as the amount of time your company has been in business.
o Austrians show deference to people in authority, so it is imperative that they understand your level relative to their own.
o It is imperative that you exercise good manners in all your business interactions.
o There is little joking or small talk in the office as they are serious and focused on accomplishing business objectives/goals.
o Communication is formal and follows strict rules of protocol.
o Always use the formal word for you 'sie' unless invited to use the informal 'du'. Address people by their academic title and surname.
o You may be referred to simply by your surname. This is not a culture that uses first names except with family and close friends.
o Austrians are suspicious of hyperbole, promises that sound too good to be true, or displays of emotion.
o In many situations, Austrians will be direct to the point of bluntness. This is not an attempt to be rude, it is simply indicative of their desire to move the discussion along.
o Expect a great deal of written communication, both to back up decisions and to maintain a record of discussions and outcomes.

Business Meeting Etiquette

o Appointments are necessary and should be made 3 to 4 weeks in advance when meeting with private companies.
o Do not try to schedule meetings in August, the two weeks surrounding Christmas, or the week before Easter.
o Punctuality is taken extremely seriously. If you expect to be delayed, telephone immediately and offer an explanation.
o It is extremely rude to cancel a meeting at the last minute and it could ruin your business relationship.
o Meetings are formal.
o Presentations should be accurate and precise.
o Have back-up material and be prepared to defend everything: Austrians are meticulous about details.
o Meetings adhere to strict agendas, including starting and ending times. If you have an agenda, it will be followed.
o Follow-up with a letter outlining what was agreed, what the next steps are, and who is the responsible party.

Business Negotiation

o Do not sit until invited and told where to sit. There is a rigid protocol to be followed.
o Meetings adhere to strict agendas, including starting and ending times.
o A small amount of getting-to- know-you conversation may take place before the business conversation begins.
o Austrians are more concerned with long-term relationships than making a quick sale.
o Rank and position are important. Since most companies are relatively small, it is often quite easy to meet with the decision- maker.
o Business is conducted slowly. You will have to be patient and not appear ruffled by the strict adherence to protocol.
o Austrians are very detail- oriented and want to understand every innuendo before coming to agreement.
o Avoid confrontational behaviour or high-pressure tactics. It can work against you.

?What to Wear

o Business dress is conservative and follows most European conventions.
o Men should wear dark coloured, conservative business suits with white shirts.
o Women should wear either business suits or conservative dresses, complimented with elegant accessories.

Business Cards



o Business cards are exchanged without formal ritual.
o Have one side of your card translated into German. Although not a business necessity, it demonstrates an attention to detail.
o Include any advanced academic degrees or honours on your business card.
o If your company has been in business for a long time, include the founding date on your card as it demonstrates stability.

[sobijoon]

اگر کسی در اتریش بخواد ما رو مدلت کنه چی و از کجا باید برامون بفرسته؟ کپی سند منزل اون شخص برای سفارت کافیه؟ یا باید مدرکی با قید نام ما بفرسته؟ از کجا میتونه و خلاصه این روش چطور ممکنه؟ اگر برای کسی در اتریش پول بفرستیم و بگیم مثلا یک خونه که در اینترنت دیدم رو اجاره کنه به نام من میشه؟ کسی هست در این زمینه کمک کنه؟ ممنون.

دوست عزیز به نظرم این قضیه رو زنگ بزنین از سفارت اتریش به صورت کامل و دقیق سوال کنید
اگه به اون شخص اطمینان 100 % دارین براش پول بفرستین که این کار رو براتون بکنه

[sobijoon]

Austrian Etiquette & Customs

Meeting Etiquette
o Greetings are formal.
o A quick, firm handshake is the traditional greeting.
o Maintain eye contact during the greeting.
o Some Austrian men, particularly those who are older, may kiss the hand of a female.
o A male from another country should not kiss an Austrian woman's hand.
o Women may also kiss men, but men never kiss other men.
o Titles are very important and denote respect. Use a person's title and their surname until invited to use their first name.
o When entering a room, shake hands with everyone individually, including children


Gift Giving Etiquette

o In general, Austrians exchange gifts with family and close friends at Christmas (generally Christmas Eve) and birthdays.
o Children receive gifts on December 6th, the feast of St. Nicholas
o If invited to dinner at an Austrian's house, bring a small gift of consumables such as chocolates.
o If giving flowers, always give an odd number as except for 12, even numbers mean bad luck.
o Do not give red carnations, lilies, or chrysanthemums.
o Gifts should be nicely wrapped.
o Gifts are usually opened when received.

Dining Etiquette

o If you are invited to an Austrian's house:
o Arrive on time. Punctuality is a sign of respect.
o Dress conservatively and elegantly.
o In some houses you may be asked to remove your shoes, although the custom is not as prevalent as it once was.

!Watch your table manners

o Remain standing until invited to sit down. You may be shown to a particular seat.
o Table manners are Continental -- the fork is held in the left hand and the knife in the right while eating.
o Put your napkin on your lap as soon as you sit down.
o Do not begin eating until the hostess says 'mahlzeit' or 'Guten Appetit'.
o Cut as much of your food with your fork as possible, since this compliments the cook by saying the food is very tender.
o Finish everything on your plate.
o Indicate you have finished eating by laying your knife and fork parallel on your plate with the handles facing to the right.
o The host gives the first toast. Everyone lifts and clinks glasses, looks the person making the toast in the eye and says, 'Prost!'.
o An honoured guest offers a toast of thanks to the host at the end of the meal.

Business Etiquette and Protocol in Austria

Relationships & Communication

o First impressions are important and you will be judged on your clothing and demeanour.
o Although Austrians prefer third-party introductions, they do not need a personal relationship in order to do business.
o They will be interested in any advanced university degrees you might have as well as the amount of time your company has been in business.
o Austrians show deference to people in authority, so it is imperative that they understand your level relative to their own.
o It is imperative that you exercise good manners in all your business interactions.
o There is little joking or small talk in the office as they are serious and focused on accomplishing business objectives/goals.
o Communication is formal and follows strict rules of protocol.
o Always use the formal word for you 'sie' unless invited to use the informal 'du'. Address people by their academic title and surname.
o You may be referred to simply by your surname. This is not a culture that uses first names except with family and close friends.
o Austrians are suspicious of hyperbole, promises that sound too good to be true, or displays of emotion.
o In many situations, Austrians will be direct to the point of bluntness. This is not an attempt to be rude, it is simply indicative of their desire to move the discussion along.
o Expect a great deal of written communication, both to back up decisions and to maintain a record of discussions and outcomes.

Business Meeting Etiquette

o Appointments are necessary and should be made 3 to 4 weeks in advance when meeting with private companies.
o Do not try to schedule meetings in August, the two weeks surrounding Christmas, or the week before Easter.
o Punctuality is taken extremely seriously. If you expect to be delayed, telephone immediately and offer an explanation.
o It is extremely rude to cancel a meeting at the last minute and it could ruin your business relationship.
o Meetings are formal.
o Presentations should be accurate and precise.
o Have back-up material and be prepared to defend everything: Austrians are meticulous about details.
o Meetings adhere to strict agendas, including starting and ending times. If you have an agenda, it will be followed.
o Follow-up with a letter outlining what was agreed, what the next steps are, and who is the responsible party.

Business Negotiation

o Do not sit until invited and told where to sit. There is a rigid protocol to be followed.
o Meetings adhere to strict agendas, including starting and ending times.
o A small amount of getting-to- know-you conversation may take place before the business conversation begins.
o Austrians are more concerned with long-term relationships than making a quick sale.
o Rank and position are important. Since most companies are relatively small, it is often quite easy to meet with the decision- maker.
o Business is conducted slowly. You will have to be patient and not appear ruffled by the strict adherence to protocol.
o Austrians are very detail- oriented and want to understand every innuendo before coming to agreement.
o Avoid confrontational behaviour or high-pressure tactics. It can work against you.

?What to Wear

o Business dress is conservative and follows most European conventions.
o Men should wear dark coloured, conservative business suits with white shirts.
o Women should wear either business suits or conservative dresses, complimented with elegant accessories.

Business Cards



o Business cards are exchanged without formal ritual.
o Have one side of your card translated into German. Although not a business necessity, it demonstrates an attention to detail.
o Include any advanced academic degrees or honours on your business card.
o If your company has been in business for a long time, include the founding date on your card as it demonstrates stability.

دوست عزیز یه توضیحی میدی راجع به این پست که چی هست ؟
با تشکر

[sune]

دوست عزیز یه توضیحی میدی راجع به این پست که چی هست ؟
با تشکر

تا جائی که من فهمیدم اصول آداب ومعاشرت تو اتریش هست.مثلاملاقات های دوستانه هدیه دادن غذا خوردن ملاقات و مصاحبه های کاری. الان یعنی به درد ما می خوره؟ باید این طوری واقعا رفتار کرد؟

[milad83]

تا جائی که من فهمیدم اصول آداب ومعاشرت تو اتریش هست.مثلاملاقات های دوستانه هدیه دادن غذا خوردن ملاقات و مصاحبه های کاری. الان یعنی به درد ما می خوره؟ باید این طوری واقعا رفتار کرد؟

بله دقیقا" مربوط به همین جور مسائلی که گفتید هست اینم لینکشه

Austria - Language, Culture, Customs and Etiquette

[tesna]

بله دقیقا" مربوط به همین جور مسائلی که گفتید هست اینم لینکشه

Austria - Language, Culture, Customs and Etiquette

سپاس از شما میلا جان که پست منو کامل کردی و احسنت که دقیقا، لینک رو هم پیدا کردینو گذاشتین !! اینو همینطور که شما اشاره کردید در مورد یکسری فرهنگ ها و آداب معاشرتی ست که توصیه شده به این صورتر که گفته شده رفتار بشه.ولی نکته ای که در هدف از این پست اینجا گذاشم این بود که علاوه بر اطلاع رسانی و آشنایی دوستان با این آداب و معاشرت
بیشتر مهمه که نظر دوستان رو در رابطه با این مسایلی که در اون پست ذکر شده جویا بشیم.و تجربیاتشون رو در مورد این مسایل بدونیم.به هر حال در اون جامعه و فرهنگ زندگی می کنند و شناخت بهتری دارند.
ممنون از همگی

[Mr_Different]

سلام همه دوستان

حدودا 1 ماه هست که من رسیدم لینز و کارای اداری و بقیه ماجراها همین هفته گذشته تموم شد. که همه کمک ها ر هم از دستان فروم گرفتیم.
خواستم تشکری کرده باشم و بگم که اگر کسی از دوستان تشریف اورد لینز بگه که مسیر گرفتن اقامت و اینا رو بهش بگیم چون اینجا خیلی با این چیزی که دویتان در وین می گن فرق می کنه !!!!! خیلی آسونتر هست فقط اگر مثل من اشتباهی برین مجبور می شین کلی هزینه اضافی بدین و کلی هم عقب بیافتین. کارای من می تونستن تو کمتر از 2 هفته تموم بشن ولی راه رو خیلی اشتباه رفتم.... مثل وین نبود خوب

ممنون بابت کمک همه دوستان.
موفق باشید.